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Some of us are going from manchester ;-)
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==== Group 3 ====

 * Out 8th (BA6004) MAN 10:30 - HEL 15:15
 * Back 18th (BA6007) HEL 16:00 - MAN 16:50
 * VinceSanders, mhy

1. UK Debian travel to Debconf 5 in Helsinki, Finland, 2005

Debconf site is at http://www.debconf.org/debconf5/ for more details.

Core conference dates are Sunday 10th July to Sunday 17th July, unless Andreas has made the same fence-post mistake as last year.

1.1. People

Add your name below if you're interested in travelling in a group.

Also fill in the dates you'd prefer to travel.

Name

Nick

DD?

Location

Preferred Dates and flights

SteveMcIntyre

Sledge

Yes

Cambridge

Group 1 below

DavidPashley

JD

hahaha

Brighton

Group 1 below

Robert McQueen

Robot101

Yes

Cambridge/Cardiff

Group 1 below

JonMasters

jcm

No

Reading

Unlikely to be going, at OLS et al.

BenHutchings

Womble2

No

Cambridge

9th (EZ3445) to 18th (EZ3446) via Tallinn

NattieMayerHutchings

nattie

Like, no

Cambridge

9th (EZ3445) to 18th (EZ3446) via Tallinn

RobTaylor

robtaylor

Nope

Cambridge

Group 1 below

MarkBrown

broonie

Yes

Edinburgh

JonathanMcDowell

Noodles

Yes

Norwich

9th (KL1502) to 18th (KL1164) Norwich -> Amsterdam -> Helsinki

PhilHands

fil

Yes

N.E. London

Group 1 below

VinceSanders

kyllikki

yup

Leeds

DafyddHarries

daf

No

Bridgend

Paul Sladen

sladen

No

London

who knows...

Ian Jackson

Yes

Cambridge

9th (BA798) to 18th (BA795) - GBP 165

Simon Kelley

Yes

Cambridge

Group 1 below

ScottJamesRemnant

Keybuk

Yes

Birmingham

Group 1 below

MorayAllan

moray

Wookey

wookey

Yes

Cambridge

Not sure yet. Probably STN->Tampere

Womble2: Here are the prices I found (updated 2005-03-07):

Airport

Additional travel

Airline

Departure airport

Fare including additional travel

Fare reduction for other dates

Helsinki

local bus

Finnair/BA

Heathrow

£161 + a little = ~£165

£10 less if returning on morning of 17th

Tallinn

ferry, 1.5 hours

Easyjet

Stansted

£121 + EUR40 = ~£145

£45 less if returning on 16th or 19th

Tampere

bus, 2.5 hours

Ryanair

Stansted

£184 + EUR50 = ~£219

£40 less if going on 11th, £20 less if returning on 19th

Stockholm

ferry, 16-17 hours

Ryanair

Luton or Stansted

£73 + EUR74 = ~£124 (no cabin, group rate)

no

moray: I'm planning to go, but will be travelling from Edinburgh - though it looks like flying via London may be sensible.

broonie: Me too.

Womble2: KLM will fly you from Edinburgh to Helsinki via Schiphol for about £200.

JD: Gatwick is good for me, Heathrow isn't too bad. Stansted is a little more stressful, but more than doable.

mhy: I'll be going; travelling from Manchester direct to Helsinki.

jcm: Looking like Helsinki but I won't book this until nearer the time. Are we actually going to organise a group out of Heathrow?

sladen: I prefer to travel overland where I can. I'm likely to go via Oslo for something a week before, so it might make sense to get an [http://www.interrailnet.com/passes.dhtml?country_id=28,language_id=11,type_country=I Interrail]/[http://www.scanrail.com/template/article.asp?aid=60&folder_id=31 Scanrail] pass and go travelling with the Brompton for the week in between that and Debconf itself; possibly cheating with Stanstead->Torp as a starting point...

1.2. Flights down south

Sledge: for people in the SE of England, I think Heathrow direct is probably best. At the moment, [http://www.expedia.co.uk Expedia] lists the following BA flights that might be of interest. Looks like BA and Finnair are code-sharing, and BA are mostly cheaper for any given flight combo, so I'm only listing the BA flight numbers. All times are LOCAL, i.e. BST and BST + 2.

I'm ignoring flights via Prague that save GBP 3 but add over 2 hours on the journey time. Costs for these flights seem to be ~GBP 165 for a cheap flight (evening flight from Heathrow, morning back from HEL), or ~GBP 190 for other options.

Noodles: I'm tempted to go for a flight from Norwich - it's via Amsterdam and costs £40 more, but saves me travelling all the way to Heathrow. There's a 16:30->22:30 on Fri 8th and a 06:40->09:30 on Monday 18th. And it's 10 minutes or so to the airport from home. ;) It's close enough in timings to the BA798 that I could still meet people at Helsinki airport for onward travel though.

nattie: Anybody wishing to join us in travelling to Helsinki via Tallinn is more than welcome to do so. We will meet up with the rest of the group in Helsinki on Saturday afternoon in order to get Matthew drunk on his birthday :-) We return to Tallinn on Sunday the 17th, spend the evening and night there, and return UK-wards on Monday morning.

Ian Jackson: I'll be on the same flight back, but am travelling out a day later than you,

1.2.1. Flights out

Flight no

Depart LHR

Arrive HEL

Friday 8th

BA 794

12:20

17:15

BA 6080

16:10

21:05

BA 798

18:00

22:55

Saturday 9th

BA 6036

07:30

12:25

BA 794

12:20

17:15

BA 798

18:00

22:55

Sunday 10th

BA 6032

10:20

15:15

BA 6080

16:10

21:05

1.2.2. Flights back

Flight no

Depart HEL

Arrive LHR

Sunday 17th

BA 795

07:40

09:00

BA 6037

11:25

12:35

BA 799

18:15

19:25

BA 6035

19:30

20:40

Monday 18th

BA 795

07:40

09:00

BA 799

18:15

19:25

BA 6035

19:30

20:40

Tuesday 19th

BA 795

07:40

09:00

BA 799

18:15

19:25

1.3. Flights up north

Some of us are going from manchester ;-)

1.3.1. Flights out

Flight no

Depart MAN

Arrive HEL

Friday 8th

BA 6004

10:30

15:15

1.3.2. Flights back

Flight no

Depart HEL

Arrive MAN

Monday 18th

BA 6007

16:00

16:50

1.3.3. Travel groups

1.3.3.1. Group 1

  • Out 8th (BA798) LHR 18:00 - HEL 22:55
  • Back 18th (BA795) HEL 07:40 - LHR 09:00
  • Sledge, JD, robtaylor, Robot101, fil, Simon Kelley, Keybuk
  • Flights now booked for these 7 people

Sledge: I've got a debian-cd hack session on the 9th...

1.3.3.2. Group 2

  • Out 9th (EZ3445) STN 06:45 - TLL 11:40, (Nordic Jet Line) Tallinn 15:00 - Helsinki 16:40
  • Back 17th (Nordic Jet Line) Helsinki 12:25 - Tallinn 14:05, 18th (EZ3446) TLL 12:05 - STN 12:55
  • womble2, nattie

1.3.3.3. Group 3

  • Out 8th (BA6004) MAN 10:30 - HEL 15:15
  • Back 18th (BA6007) HEL 16:00 - MAN 16:50
  • VinceSanders, mhy

1.3.3.4. Group <N>

  • ...

1.4. Accomodation

Sledge: There was a brief idea to get hostel places elsewhere, but they petered out and apathy won... :-)

Noodles: We're hoping to get one of the apartments to share; these have 2, 3 or 4 small rooms that each hold 3 (see http://www.debconf.org/debconf5/about/accomodation). If you're interested, add your name below, but do so soon as room allocations are being decided at present (2005-06-01).

Marga: You have now been allocated the whole 5th floor, which has 3 apartments comprising of 2, 2 and 3 small rooms respectively and one big room. Each small room has a bed, large room has 2.

Marga's current (2005-06-09) plan for accommodation is http://www.marga.com.ar/~marga/debconf-rooms-3.html

Did anything happen about the plan raised on the debconf list at some point to acquire bedding in bulk? (This could make the lot of those who end up on the floor less terrible.)

Marga: those that don't get a bed can ask for a matress. Please do it here, as well.

1.4.1. People staying in hotels

1.4.1.1. Radisson SAS Espoo

  • mhy

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