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'''Sledge:''' I'm thinking of organising a road trip for travelling to Banja Luka in July for Debconf 11. If you're interested in joining me, please add yourself below. The details so far are:

See http://j.mp/hxMx3g for the route planner I'm using

All times '''approximate''' and in local time

=== Trip out: dash down through France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina ! ===
Friday 2011-07-22
 * ~04:00 Leave Cambridge and drive to Dover
 * 06:00 Ferry from Dover to Calais, landing ~8:30
 * 08:30 Drive across France, Belgium, Netherlands, enter Germany.
 * 12:30 Stop somewhere around Cologne for lunch
 * 13:30 Continue south and east, cross into Austria
 * 20:00 Stop in Graz for the night

Saturday 2011-07-23
 * 11:00 Leave Graz, head into Slovenia then Croatia
 * 14:00 Stop somewhere around Zagreb for lunch
 * 18:00 Head on to Bosnia, get to Banja Luka (depends on time spent for lunch etc.)

=== Debconf! ===

=== Trip back: reverse route ===
Sunday 2011-07-31
 * 06:00 Leave Banja Luka early morning. Head back through Bosnia, Croatia, Austria, Germany
 * 13:00 Stop somewhere near Regensburg for lunch
 * 14:00 Head on through Germany
 * 20:00 Stop in Brussels for the night

Monday 2011-08-01
 * 11:00 Leave Brussels, cross Belgium and France.
 * 14:00 Catch Ferry from Calais to Dover
 * 14:30 Head back from Dover
 * 16:30 Arrive in Cambridge and ''sleep''

(or there's an alternative route we could do on one leg of the trip, heading further south and
avoiding Belgium and the Netherlands. Very slightly further, but will add some variation. Interested?
Say so! Could include a quick run through Luxembourg if we want, for very little extra time/distance.)

'''Sledge:''' I'm expecting fuel costs of ~GBP 400 for the trip, plus tolls etc. for maybe ~GBP 100;
ferries cost ~GBP 100 for a car including 4 passengers. And there are 2 overnight hotel stops:
1 out and 1 back. Assuming reasonable prices for sharing hotel rooms,
I'm estimating a cost per person of *roughly* GBP 300 to GBP 350
per person for the travel. It'll probably be more expensive than the train or
plane options, but it includes more sight-seeing across Europe plus the flexibility
to do stuff while we're down there. I'm in for the road trip, and Jo says she
is too.

Insurance will be interesting: most UK insurers won't cover Bosnia, it seems. However, there are apparently insurance brokers at the border crossings from Croatia. Various sites also suggest that an International Driving Permit is a good plan.

DanielSilverstone estimated per-person for his car at approx 200+hotels/food so slightly cheaper
than Sledge's due to slightly newer engine and slightly less leaden foot. Flights looked to be
around 250/person excl. local travel at either end, or other incurred expenses. A more reasoned
calculation by Daniel reached the all-in cost of roughly 300 GBP/person assuming 4-up in Daniel's
car, but starting from Manchester and using Eurotunnel, thusly different fuel and channel-crossing
costs.

=== Interested people ===

I'm wanting to book by the middle of April, so don't take too long.

||'''Name''' ||'''Nick''' ||'''DD?'''||'''Location'''||'''Willing and able to drive?'''||'''Car available?''' ||
||SteveMcIntyre || Sledge || Yes || Cambridge || Yes ||BMW 3-series estate, space for 4 people ||
||JoWarner || Randombird || No || Cambridge || Yes ||with Sledge ||
|| NeilMcGovern || Maulkin || Yes || Cambridge || Yes ||Mazda MX-5, space for one passenger + Luggage (if you can pack light!) ||
||AndySimpkins || Rattusrattus || No || Southampton || Yes ||BMW 3-series estate, space for 4 people ||
||DavidLeggett || Serbitar || No || Southampton || No - Can't drive ||With Rattus ||
|| NeilWilliams || codehelp || Yes || Cambridge || Yes || Toyota MR2, space for one passenger if luggage goes in another car ||
|| DanielSilverstone || Kinnison || Yes || Manchester || Yes || VW Passat Estate. Space for 3+driver, one of those may be reserved already. ||
|| EnricoZini || enrico || Yes || Manchester || Yes (Italian driving license) || with Kinnison, still considering my options, will confirm before march 23 ||

== Train ==

Easiest route seems to be: London - Paris - Munich - Zagreb - Banja Luka

www.bahn.de doesn't seem to be interested in quoting for the bit between Zagreb and Banja Luka, but suggests 25 to 28 hours for the bit from London to Zagreb. They also won't quote prices more than 90 days in advance, but based on a similar length of trip I'm doing for work (London to Budapest) I'd guess at ''something like'' GBP250 return each. No idea of the cost from Zagreb to Banja Luka.

== Plane ==

Looking at the page at http://debconf11.debconf.org/travel.xhtml (and trying online too!), there are no useful flights to Banja Luka from the UK. Expedia says FAIL. Flying to Zagreb in Croatia and getting a bus for ~3 hours is suggested. Looking at that on Expedia, there are direct flights from LHR to ZAG from GBP250 ish, or GBP200 ish with a connection in Germany. No idea how much the bus will cost...
 * [[/Roadtrip|Car]]
 * [[/Train|Train]]
 * [[/Plane|Plane]]

There will probably a good number of UK DDs heading to Banja Luka this year.

Suggested travel modes:

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